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Post by saltshaker on May 26, 2013 23:11:34 GMT -5
A high low table in the salon works well when there's no dinette. You can't get everything in a smaller boat. A dinette on a 42C would get in the way or be too small to be usefull
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Post by captddis on May 28, 2013 17:03:37 GMT -5
For me, Slight edge to 48 then 43. Ditto what Jack said on the 52/50. IF you can get a deal on the 50 ok. The negative on the 43/48 is the tight ER and the small friges.
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Post by krush on May 28, 2013 19:50:21 GMT -5
How would one-man handling of the 50/52 work (with somebody that knows what they are doing)?
For 1 or 2 person cruising, all of them would be plenty sufficient--with smaller ones easier to deal with...except for tighter engine room. But modern engines give some more room in the 43 and 42.
I'm open to any other boats as well. My budget is going to be 80-100k with a little leeway on top if needed. Obviously, all these boats mentioned will have to come down to meet me.
The 43c with 630hp and only 26knots is strange. Over on HOF a guy said :"I have a 1986 45 with QSM 11's rated at 535hp. Cruise is 24/26 and WOT is 28/30 - depending on props. At the 535hp rating the engines should go 10,000 hours before rebuild."
I just have to get out and look at them and see what feels right.
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Post by Top Hatt and Tails on May 29, 2013 6:35:11 GMT -5
Krush - go the smallest that your comfortable on... it's no fun sitting at the dock if you need mates and can't find any.
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Post by Avenger on May 29, 2013 8:13:04 GMT -5
Ditto that. Even the 36 gives me trouble when it windy. It isn't the handling itself, it's trying to get it tied to the dock when the wind is trying to blow it away. Much harder than it looks when you're by yourself.
And I don't need to remind you of the ever present (and growing) cost of everything on any boat and obviously that increases with size. So I won't remind you.
If you need me to look at the boat in Northport for you, let me know.
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Post by krush on May 29, 2013 11:55:46 GMT -5
Scratch the 48c in Knoxville of the list. It is a donated boat, but the broker said they can sell it free and clear--but the charity is proud of it and they've turned down offers in 130k (way too high). He said they pulled the flybridge and trucked it down from OH. They are a yard and talked to hatteras how to do it etc....still, flybridge has been pulled.
The 43c story deepens. Turns out the engines were "overhauled" in 2008 with 1530hrs...which makes NO sense. I was emailed the invoice and it said one engine cooler leaked seawater or something and engine had excessive blowby. Then it said overhauled both engines with reman heads, new liners etc, but I can't really find the liner/piston in the parts list (but I could be dumb).
Then current owner spent nice change and people came out and changed elbows and fuel supply lines and etc and went from 20 to 22kt cruise.
1900rpm 2100 2332 21kt 24kt 26.9 and 29psi boost
Those were some numbers from past survey. Anyway, suposedly somebody looked at that lives Chicago and is interested but worried bout the bridges getting it home. With all these unknowns, the price would have to be really really attractive and there's no way he's going down that low. Broker did say everybody asks and wonders about the speeds. So for now, it's scratched too.
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Post by saltshaker on May 29, 2013 15:00:29 GMT -5
That 48 does look nice but like we said before, it would need to be real cheap to offset the cost of getting her home. If you can do the loop now, then you can eliminate that as an expense but it sounds like the boat isn't in your budget anyway. That 43C saga sure is strange. I can see the one engine failing but why was the other done with such low hours? I still say the speed is too slow but without knowing the engine load can't say if it's props or not. Also doubt they'll come down below 100K to fit your budget. As for single handing a 50C/52C, they're all fine as long as everything is fine, which it rarely is. It's a long way from the bridge to the bow when you're line handling. For me the bigger issue is what do you do if something really goes wrong? You may need someone to man the radio and the helm while you're troubleshooting below. This is an issue with any large boat but the larger the boat, the more of an issue it is. If you really think you'll be doing a lot of extended single handed cruising, I wouldn't go any bigger than low to mid 40's. A well laid out, outfitted mid 30's boat might make more sense.
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Post by krush on May 29, 2013 20:15:37 GMT -5
I agree on the size, which is something I've been contemplating quite a bit. The 38 and lowers are just too small to have any people on. 46-48 always kinda was the upper limit I would really consider.....but the prices of certain 50/52 tempted me. However, logic will prevail (unless it's a deal I can't refuse) and I think at this point in my life it's better to get smaller and enjoy it and then move up later (likely to some kinda motor-yacht with cockpit, etc). I assume $0 value when it comes time to move up so any price it sells for would be "free" money. The 42 with volvos they been trying to sell since 2009! 219k back then www.samsmarine.com/forums/showthread.php?13113-1974-2001-42-Hatteras-Sportfish-ConvertiblePatience is key.
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Post by krush on May 29, 2013 20:24:31 GMT -5
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Post by Top Hatt and Tails on May 30, 2013 6:08:57 GMT -5
On the Egg's - watch side window leaks in ages 1980 - 1997. Known issue. Can be repaired, but how much damage done is the question.
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