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Post by saltshaker on Mar 27, 2012 13:05:23 GMT -5
Did anyone else read that the mom and lawyers were trying to trademark "Trayvon Martin"? From an article I read earlier today... The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office filings by Sybrina Fulton are for the sayings "I Am Trayvon" and "Justice For Trayvon." The applications were filed last week. She said she wants to raise money from these trademarked phrases to help other families in a similar situation as hers.
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Post by saltshaker on Mar 27, 2012 13:17:30 GMT -5
No not at all. We get the kids coming through here all the time and when asked about what their doing they sometimes reply politely and have a legitimate reason to be here. More often than before we are having kids cut through the yards. breaking fences and destroying landscaping to cut through instead of walking around. When we encounter them in our yard they mouth off and threaten us. Some have broken into neighbors homes. They get caught in the act and get very aggressive. When the come at me in a threatening manner I will shoot them. My neighbor was arrested but later released for firing a warning shot at the 2 kids that kicked in her back door while she was home alone. Guess what the kids did? They claimed she shot at them because they were black. She is an 83 year old white woman from the NE. She shot at them because they were in her house. After all the racial BS went away the cop suggested next time she finds them in the house to not fire a warning shot. Look at the way these kids act and consider how they use any excuse to get away with being criminals. If that kid broke down your back door what would you do? Walking down a public road shouldn't make you a suspect. Trespassing on my property and worse breaking into my home is a whole different story. People make foolish choices and mistakes that can have dire consequences. You feel bad for them but they initiated the act. If someone kicked in your door, that's a serious act of aggression so fire away. I don't care if they are armed or not. An unarmed group of kids can beat you to death. A kid who was only planning on stealing a few things can kill you without thinking once he's caught or corned. That may not have been his intention but in the end your the one lying in the coffin. I wouldn't fault anyone for over reacting to a situation like that. Again, this is clearly different and we don't know all the facts leading up to the shooting.
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Post by banned on Mar 27, 2012 13:19:04 GMT -5
Look I got it I used to have a yard in Rockaway beach NY that makes your neighborhood look like candy land. Now you can dream up anything you want but not one thing known so far is suggesting that this kid (not the ones in your neighbors house) was doing anything wrong and he's dead. That's a problem. If you decide to follow some one just because you think he's up to no good then you better keep your distance unless there is good reason. To me Zimmerman seams like a nut ball. 47 calls for suspicious people in a year so almost one a week then following some with a gun sounds like a Zealot to me.
If this kid was a white honor student we you be so quick to justify Zimmerman's actions?
Brian
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Post by badhattitude on Mar 27, 2012 13:22:47 GMT -5
I live in a closed community as did Zimmerman. The simple fact that someone is in the neighborhood has been an argument for trespassing and if they are in our yards it's even easier to push but it seems that the same kids do it over and over again and get off using the same BS excuses.
Did you cut through your neighbors yard when you were a kid? After they told you not to and put up a fence? It's a total lack of respect on the part of too many of these kids.
Maybe trevon was not there doing something wrong ( that time) but to be there acting like a criminal in his hoodie puts him in the sights of concerned homeowners.
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Post by saltshaker on Mar 27, 2012 13:33:48 GMT -5
I live in a closed community as did Zimmerman. The simple fact that someone is in the neighborhood has been an argument for trespassing and if they are in our yards it's even easier to push but it seems that the same kids do it over and over again and get off using the same BS excuses. Did you cut through your neighbors yard when you were a kid? After they told you not to and put up a fence? It's a total lack of respect on the part of too many of these kids. Maybe trevon was not there doing something wrong ( that time) but to be there acting like a criminal in his hoodie puts him in the sights of concerned homeowners. I never cut through a yard with a fence and most of the yards I cut through were neighbors who knew me and were fine with it. I live in about the whitest town you could imagine. My kids are 7 and 5. Go to their school on any given day and at least 1/2 the kids are wearing hoodies.
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Post by banned on Mar 27, 2012 13:36:33 GMT -5
The kid had as much right to be there as Zimmerman. He wasn't in any ones yard. He was not trespassing or on private property. The facts as they stand say he was walking home from the store. He has no record. He has no history of violence. He was UN armed. If Zimmerman had not noticed him or just called the police this all would have been avoided.
If your at the point were being black wearing a sweat shirt and walking through a white neighborhood is all it takes to justify killing someone then don't complain about the race whores because your helping to keep them in business.
Brian
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Post by badhattitude on Mar 27, 2012 13:57:51 GMT -5
I live in a mixed neighborhood and the kids wearing the hoodies and dressing ghetto usually are the ones causing trouble and many are on a first name basis with the cops. gated communities and other "private developments are not public places. The idea that its a public street so I can go anywhere I want is not true.
No one knows how the altercation went down but if trevon acted like the hoods in my neighborhood and threatened the adults because they think they can hit them without being hit back he was not only wrong but dead wrong. It's a shame that a kid who was probably not doing anything wrong was involved in the altercation but I'm sure his actions contributed to the situation going overboard.
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Post by banned on Mar 27, 2012 14:09:08 GMT -5
Everything I've read about it says it's been established that the kid was not trespassing. If that's true then he had as much right to be there as Zimmerman.
If the kid was a 17 year old white honor student would you be so quick to defend Zimmerman's actions??
Brian
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Post by Kiwipushrod on Mar 27, 2012 14:09:48 GMT -5
If your at the point were being black wearing a sweat shirt and walking through a white neighborhood is all it takes to justify killing someone then don't complain about the race whores because your helping to keep them in business. Brian I'm pretty sure He got shot for punching the gunman in the nose while chasing the gunman back to his truck, then grabbing for the lone pistol. Sounds like one or the other was going to be shot, at that point it really doesn't matter how they got there. If You come from a militant backround/nieghborhood and have been taken many times, You eventually get tired of it. That changes the way You react to possibly violent encounters. Their are people (a lot of them) who will kill You as soon as fight with You, I know personally, growing up I had My jaw broken twice. My cheek was broken once, by a kick to the face while being held down to the ground, after being worked over by 7 wonderful african american nieghbors, just for being white on the wrong street past the time they wanted Me there. My ass whoppin was only a breath away from capital murder, with no T-shirts or al sharpton, I dont think hoodies were in style then. If a hooded 6'3" boogie with gold teeth punched Me in the nose for ANY reason and I was carrying, I would, without hesitation pull the Trigga on a No_Limit_socially handicapped african american dirtbag. BUT, I was not there and will never know what really happened, I've already accepted that. Kiwi
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Post by badhattitude on Mar 27, 2012 14:26:02 GMT -5
SANFORD, Fla. (AP) — A slain Florida teenager and the neighborhood watch captain who shot and killed him exchanged words before the teen punched him in the nose and began banging the man's head on the ground, according to the watch captain's account of the confrontation that led to the shooting.
The Orlando Sentinel reported that George Zimmerman told police he lost 17-year-old Trayvon Martin in the neighborhood he regularly patrolled and was walking back to his vehicle last month when the youth approached him from behind.
The two exchanged words, Zimmerman said, and Martin then punched him, jumped on top of him and began banging his head on a sidewalk. Zimmerman said he began crying for help; Martin's family thinks it was their son who was crying out. Witness accounts differ and 911 tapes in which the voices are heard are not clear.
A statement from Sanford police said the newspaper story was "consistent" with evidence turned over to prosecutors.
Al Sharpton doesn't care what the evidence says just like with tawanna. The kid was the aggressor and attacked the neighborhood watch volunteer. He should have been shot and killed. Considering his juvie record and the school suspensions this was a future felon in training and there was no reason to arrest Zimmerman.
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