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Post by banned on Mar 27, 2012 9:49:14 GMT -5
All the racial shit is just that. It's being brought about by race whores who earn a living doing it. Worse than that the president choose to speak out about it and didn't seize that opportunity to call for calm and waiting until the investigation is completed. Back to what happened. There is a case even if based on only the facts we know. Zimmerman choose to put himself into the situation. Zimmerman choose to follow the kid. The kid was not trespassing The kid wasn't involved in any criminal activity he was simply walking home from a store The kid appears smaller and lighter than Zimmerman Zimmerman makes to many calls on suspicious people. The kid was UN armed The kid is dead. The facts that we no don't fit the situation. The kid has no history of violence. The initial aggressor was Zimmerman he was following the kid and creating a confrontation. It's not logical to think the kid became the aggressor it's possible but not logical. Non of that means Zimmerman is guilty but it certainly needs to be completely investigated. The Sanford PD closed the case without a complete investigation. Brian Do you work for CNN? No just trying to ignore the race whores be objective and present an alternative view to the common wisdom here. I haven't heard of any eye wittiness that saw who laid hand on who first. I have heard of a witness that saw Zimmerman on the ground being beaten by the kid. The accounts of what happened prior to that to the best of my understanding come only from Zimmerman. So let me ask you. If Zimmerman approached the kid and tried to stop him from leaving by holding him and the kid starts to beat Zimmerman is the shooting justified? Do you think it's possible that that's what happened? If you were walking through my neiborhood and I followed you and asked why you were here how would you react? If I laid hands on you how would you react? A few things that I don't think anyone can dispute is that Zimmerman choose to put himself into this situation. There is no evidence to suggest the kid was doing anything other than walking through the neighborhood. Brian Read more: flybridge.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=teabagging&thread=1402&page=3#ixzz1qKPk099H
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Post by badhattitude on Mar 27, 2012 10:12:34 GMT -5
Choosing to confront someone in your neighborhood that is acting suspicious is not a crime. Hitting someone is. Zimmerman may have been able to avoid the confrontation but if he did not throw the first punch he should not be held responsible for the actions of "no limit socially handicapped african american dirtbag".
not being racist but I bet he acted the part of a hood and was treated as a hood.
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Post by banned on Mar 27, 2012 10:26:13 GMT -5
What if Zimmerman didn't throw the first punch but simply tried to hold him untill police arrived?
Brian
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Post by Kiwipushrod on Mar 27, 2012 10:31:02 GMT -5
Did anyone else read that the mom and lawyers were trying to trademark "Trayvon Martin"?
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Post by badhattitude on Mar 27, 2012 10:32:24 GMT -5
if trevon was aggressive to Zimmerman and Zimmerman was in fear of trevon hurting him he's justified. It takes two to fight. Neither one may be without fault but that does not mean they should lynch Zimmerman.
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Post by saltshaker on Mar 27, 2012 10:34:10 GMT -5
Choosing to confront someone in your neighborhood that is acting suspicious is not a crime. Hitting someone is. Zimmerman may have been able to avoid the confrontation but if he did not throw the first punch he should not be held responsible for the actions of "no limit socially handicapped african american dirtbag". not being racist but I bet he acted the part of a hood and was treated as a hood. Following someone on a hunch and following someone who is actually acting suspicious are two different things. Regardless or race, most 17-year-old boys act the part of the wise as. Does that mean they should be treated as criminals? Does throwing a punch warrant shooting someone to death? I agree 100% with Brian, we don't know what happened right before the shot was fired.
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Post by banned on Mar 27, 2012 10:36:19 GMT -5
You didn't answer my question. If Zimmerman laid hands on the kid first not throwing a punch or anything like that but simply to keep him there by holding him does that give the kid the right to initiate a fight?
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Post by badhattitude on Mar 27, 2012 10:38:24 GMT -5
Jack lets send some of these 17 year old kids to your neighborhood and have them act ghetto and see if you have a reason to follow or fear them. We get them coming through my neighborhood all the time and there are multiple arrests for them breaking into cars or houses and vandalizing on their way through to "visit a friend". They use the race card all the time and even attack some of the homeowners knowing as minors they have a free pass. I'm not saying he was doing something wrong but if he is like the ones here he was surely acting like he was to be cool.
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Post by saltshaker on Mar 27, 2012 12:49:51 GMT -5
Jack lets send some of these 17 year old kids to your neighborhood and have them act ghetto and see if you have a reason to follow or fear them. We get them coming through my neighborhood all the time and there are multiple arrests for them breaking into cars or houses and vandalizing on their way through to "visit a friend". They use the race card all the time and even attack some of the homeowners knowing as minors they have a free pass. I'm not saying he was doing something wrong but if he is like the ones here he was surely acting like he was to be cool. No you can keep them. I understand the problem and keeping an eye on someone isn't a problem. It becomes a problem when the guy keeping an eye out gets too aggressive and suspects everyone that doesn't look right to him. Rose has a student who is 13, over 6' tall and looks very intimidating. She has worked with this kid since he was 9 and not so big. He is a great gentle kid who comes from a great family. If you saw him walking through your neighborhood you'd probably keep an eye on him. If you approached him he'd be more scared of you than you of him. But if he felt threatened he may fight back. Are you saying it would be OK to shoot this kid?
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Post by badhattitude on Mar 27, 2012 13:00:14 GMT -5
No not at all. We get the kids coming through here all the time and when asked about what their doing they sometimes reply politely and have a legitimate reason to be here. More often than before we are having kids cut through the yards. breaking fences and destroying landscaping to cut through instead of walking around. When we encounter them in our yard they mouth off and threaten us. Some have broken into neighbors homes. They get caught in the act and get very aggressive. When the come at me in a threatening manner I will shoot them.
My neighbor was arrested but later released for firing a warning shot at the 2 kids that kicked in her back door while she was home alone. Guess what the kids did? They claimed she shot at them because they were black. She is an 83 year old white woman from the NE. She shot at them because they were in her house. After all the racial BS went away the cop suggested next time she finds them in the house to not fire a warning shot.
Look at the way these kids act and consider how they use any excuse to get away with being criminals. If that kid broke down your back door what would you do?
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