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Post by Kiwipushrod on Sept 2, 2010 17:46:04 GMT -5
Show Off! Nice work. What does Your shop do to make money? I only just figured out that You are Scrod, the "live in theory" thing. Most of You know who each other are and what You do for a living. Kiwi
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Post by Avenger on Sept 3, 2010 10:09:00 GMT -5
Thanks Kiwi. I don't know if I'd say it makes money, but usually we're in the business of repairing, servicing, rebuilding diesel fuel injection equipment, turbochargers and governors. The machine shop is a back corner/hobby operation that most days is drilling out broken bolts or salvaging other damaged components. But occasionally, it makes works of art. Example of things that pay the bills.... Bosch "P" pump from V-12 MAN on the test bench:
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Post by yachtsmanwilly on Sept 3, 2010 17:23:35 GMT -5
Ya see KIWI... thats why you call guys like spcoo... I mean SCROD when you need the real experts' advice!!! I can just about imagine the experts across the hall explaining volumetric co-efficients on fuel pumps versus fuel rail discharge pressures etc. Nice pic DT... ws
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Post by Kiwipushrod on Sept 3, 2010 17:42:28 GMT -5
Plus, He's a VW TDI guy. Cool machine! So what it cost to build that MAN pump? A couple hundred? Kiwi
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Post by craig on Sept 3, 2010 23:42:40 GMT -5
Growing up a toolmakers son, my Dad owned quite a large job shop in upstate New York. I drool evertime I see the bridgeports and the lathes etc. I wish I had one of each. A surface grinder would fit in nicely also. Nice work Scod, I'll bet you were laughing your as off at the fuel air argument across the hall.
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Post by krush on Sept 4, 2010 5:06:16 GMT -5
why didn't he print the model out in a rapid protyping machine first? Soon those damn 3d printers will make stuff out of strong material and reduce the need for machining.
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Post by Avenger on Sept 4, 2010 10:07:27 GMT -5
Plus, He's a VW TDI guy. Cool machine! So what it cost to build that MAN pump? A couple hundred? Kiwi Yeah, the TDI.... another buy it cheap and fix it up deal. This kind of thing is really tough on valves. I forgot what that pump went for, probably about $4K. Still a lot cheaper than MAN prices. That pic is a resized scan of a photo, hence the quality but it points out the age. It's at least five years ago, probably more. If you want to see where some of our other work ends up look in the Pics thread: flybridge.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=boating&action=display&thread=187&page=8Growing up a toolmakers son, my Dad owned quite a large job shop in upstate New York. I drool evertime I see the bridgeports and the lathes etc. I wish I had one of each. A surface grinder would fit in nicely also. Nice work Scod, I'll bet you were laughing your as off at the fuel air argument across the hall. Funny you should mention it. We just got a surface grinder. It came with a Bridgeport that I bought from a family friend. The "new" mill is actually a couple of years older than the one in most of those pics, but it's light-years younger in condition. So if you want one, the old one is for sale. why didn't he print the model out in a rapid protyping machine first? Soon those damn 3d printers will make stuff out of strong material and reduce the need for machining. Yeah, if I had Jay Leno's money. Actually, a lot of the computer technology has already rendered the knowledge of a machinist obsolete. Most schools don't even have manual machines around anymore, just a computer and an NC machine. All of the "knowledge" like speeds, feeds, and geometry is built into the database. I must just be getting old(er) but it's sad that that skill is going to go the way of the buggy-whip maker.
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Post by yachtsmanwilly on Sept 4, 2010 11:22:42 GMT -5
Just like "auto technicians"... put a hat on backwards and blast Notorius D and talk chips and yer an expert mechanic... set the float height?? HUH??? Valves?? Gears??? GREASE UNDER THE NAILS... NO WAY!!!!! ws
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Post by krush on Sept 4, 2010 16:55:38 GMT -5
I understand machining and can make a few chips, but I'll never be an expert. Though when I settle down I'd like to aquire stuff and get some old fart to teach me or do a few classes. My type of work has me involved with all trades, so I know quite a bit about them (machining, electrical, welding, boilermaker, etc)--one has to know enough to communicate and earn respect!
You'd be REALLY surprised how inexpensive the 3d printers have become.
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Post by Avenger on Sept 4, 2010 17:07:55 GMT -5
You're not kidding... I forget where I saw it, but there is some kind of MIT type project where they're making these prototypers that are self-replicating, the designs are available on the internet and can be created almost anywhere. Funny, but the technology that we've invented is probably going to make us competitive with third-world nations soon... and not in a good way.
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