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Post by bigbill on Jul 20, 2023 17:50:30 GMT -5
i just bought a roll of 3/4 8 plait nylon rope for a hell of a deal. 2400 feet for 400.00 dollars. the guy has plenty of rolls from 3/4 to 2 inch if anyone is interested, it is near hattisburg ms. so my question----i'm going to learn how to splice this stuff and use it for anchor and some dock lines, i dont think this will splice straight to my 1/4 chain, would y'all use a rope thimble or straight to a shackle to the chain... on my 3 strand i have always used a thimble but i see more and more splices that go straight to chain or shackle. so the guy bought a bunch of rolls from a govt. auction and is now trying to resell it, he said it came from yale cordage. he has nylon and poly. it is listed on facebook marketplace in mississippi. i also have his number if anyone want some
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Post by yachtsmanwilly on Jul 21, 2023 6:13:01 GMT -5
Good show Bill! The following link was showing $1.98 /foot! You may not want to trust the first wrap from excessive UV exposure though. Just my opinion. Use it for a dockline. The old HATTRICK used all chain, about 300 feet and it was rust wasted right in the ceneter needing a chain splice. How much faith can you put in that?? Just popped this up for a brief explanation on the stuff. Familiar with it but never heard it called by name. Hmmm. Theres also a link that shows recommendations for lines by gypsy brands. It shows a splice directly to the anchor/line, but I'd much rather use a heavy (good) galvanized thimble and a safety wired shackle in the event that you may need a LONGGGG line to maybe pull off a grounded boat. You hurricaners can also use that for adjusting against a strong wing if you need to. www.anchoring.com/blogs/anchoring/choosing-an-anchor-rode-three-strand-8-plait-or-double-braided-rope#:~:text=8%2Dplaited%20braided%20nylon%20rope,be%20a%20bit%20more%20relaxed.
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Post by rsmith on Jul 21, 2023 7:54:59 GMT -5
During Frances in 04 I had multiple lines on the pilings. There’s only so many you could put on a cleat so the backups I had loose and tied to other things. Once the wind comes up there’s no chance of adding extra lines to the piles. Frances sat offshore for 36 hours before it nailed us. Those 36 hours we had 60-80 mph winds. I ate through the first set of lines 3/4 3 strand in 6 hours. The only way to get out on deck was with a scuba mask because there was no way you could see without it. One of my backups was braided 3/4. Not long after I put it on we had a heavy gust and I heard what sounded like a rifle shot. I got out on deck and saw the braid line parted in the middle between the chock and the pile. After the storm passed I looked at the line ends and the strands were actually melted like someone took a torch to them. My best guess is when they tighten up the braid acts like a Chinese finger puzzle and creates a lot of heat when it tightens up. I will never trust braid again.
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Post by Avenger on Jul 21, 2023 8:30:19 GMT -5
That heat is exactly what happens. That's why I always select permeable chafe gear and not hose. You want the water to get in there to cool the line.
I do have one question. When you refer to braid do you mean 3 strand, or are you referring to what I would call woven line?
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Post by rsmith on Jul 21, 2023 11:44:26 GMT -5
Not 3 strand but regular Sampson braid. Didn’t break in a chafe area it was exactly halfway between the chock and the pole. I’ve got a picture of it somewhere.
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Post by rsmith on Jul 21, 2023 11:46:10 GMT -5
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Post by rsmith on Jul 21, 2023 11:48:27 GMT -5
I’ve had the braid slip on a cleat also even with a full turn and locking figure 8 if the cleat is too big for the line.
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Post by Avenger on Jul 21, 2023 14:28:10 GMT -5
I see. I call 3-strand "braid" and the other stuff woven, but I could have been doing it wrong all along. The reference to the chafe gear just had to do with that heat effect. I've had lines break in other places as well and they've also looked melted.
I also only use woven for temporary tie ups, like when traveling. The dock lines are all 3 strand. I think it has more give. But hey, if a storm is coming and you have to throw on all the line you got, you use everything you got.
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Post by bigbill on Jul 21, 2023 19:18:25 GMT -5
the outside layer of the spool was dirty but still soft, after the outside layer it looks new. i think i got a good deal
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Post by Avenger on Jul 22, 2023 4:21:57 GMT -5
I'm not very familiar with 8 plait. I've seen it advertised as anchor line tho. Looks like it's more flexible so needs less space in a rode locker.
I'd be interested to see how it works out for you.
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