Zimmerman, the new Twana Brawley???

[badhattitude]

Mar 27, 2012 16:19:43 GMT -5 Kiwipushrod said:

BTW, I did read this morning that the first police report stated that zimmermen had a bloodied face, when the cops first pulled up.

Kiwi

That would make me think he shot after he was attacked. is there any other way to explain that?

[krush]

Mar 27, 2012 16:14:31 GMT -5 Kiwipushrod said:

If the race's of the 2 persons in question were to have been reversed, it would still be what it is, except sharpton would not be wearing a suit today.


Kiwi

www.wtsp.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=247186

SARASOTA, Florida (AP) - Witness testimony continues in the trial of a Sarasota teen accused of killing two British tourists.

The trial of 17-year-old Shawn Tyson is in its second week.

James Kouzaris and James Cooper were dining and drinking in downtown Sarasota in April.

The pair went to two bars and left on foot after several drinks. They ended up in the Newtown neighborhood more than a mile from downtown. It's unclear why the men ended up there. But witnesses say they saw Cooper and Kouzaris walking shirtless and stumbling through the neighborhood - and that they were being followed by two men, one with a red bandanna around part of his face.

Tyson is being held at the Sarasota County Jail without bail. If convicted, he faces life in prison.








Give up the white guilt. There are savages in America. Savages come in all colors, but objective analysis would show there is a statistical correlation with regard to savage behavior and skin color.

Former NAACP leader says it best: “The epidemic is truly black on black crime,” Bryant said. “The greatest danger to the lives of young black men are young black men.” dailycaller.com/2012/03/26/former-naacp-leader-accuses-sharpton-and-jackson-of-exploiting-trayvon-martin/

[captddis]

Yes, THey are savages. I hate it when people call them animals. Animals don't kill and maim for the fun of it.

[badhattitude]

Consider this.

A Puerto Rican and a caucasianally challenged individual get in a fight and the caucasianally challenged individual is killed. No one really seems to notice outside the immediate families. Let the world know the Puerto Ricans has a Jewish last name its national news because a white guy shot a black kid. For the safety of my family I'm changing my last name to Gonzales. Ive never seen Al and Jessie picket anyone other than a honkey.

[banned]

Mar 27, 2012 17:55:22 GMT -5 badhattitude said:

And if the kid approached Zimmerman from behind and attacked him as a witness said?


According to the latest local news he disappeared then came around and got behind him and attacked. That makes it Just, Legal and prevents the kid from perfecting his criminal skills.

This is what I'm talking about. No witness said that. The witness only saw Zimmerman being beaten he did not see what happened between the end of the 311 call and the fight. That's not what's in the report you posted. The only witness to that who's alive is Zimmerman so that's useless information.

Yes if it happened the way Zimmerman says it did then it's a justified shooting. If it didn't if Zimmerman made first contact then it's not.

BTW The parents are on the Oriely Factor tonight

Brian

[saltshaker]

Mar 27, 2012 18:03:48 GMT -5 badhattitude said:

Brian more from the local news site






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New claims cast Trayvon Martin as the aggressor
Published - Mar 27 2012 06:39AM EST

CURT ANDERSON, Associated Press


(The Associated Press)

Tracy Martin, center, speaks at the Sanford City Commission meeting with Trayvon's mother, Sybrina Fulton, left, and the family lawyer, Benjamin Crump at the Sanford Civic Center in Sanford Fla., Monday, March 26, 2012. Martin, a black teen, was fatally shot by a neighborhood watch captain last month. (AP Photo/Julie Fletcher)

SANFORD, Fla. (AP) — A slain Florida teenager and the neighborhood watch captain who shot and killed him exchanged words before the teen punched him in the nose and began banging the man's head on the ground, according to the watch captain's account of the confrontation that led to the shooting.

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The Orlando Sentinel reported that George Zimmerman told police he lost 17-year-old Trayvon Martin in the neighborhood he regularly patrolled and was walking back to his vehicle last month when the youth approached him from behind.

The two exchanged words, Zimmerman said, and Martin then punched him, jumped on top of him and began banging his head on a sidewalk. Zimmerman said he began crying for help; Martin's family thinks it was their son who was crying out. Witness accounts differ and 911 tapes in which the voices are heard are not clear.

A statement from Sanford police said the newspaper story was "consistent" with evidence turned over to prosecutors.

Because Martin was black and Zimmerman has a white father and Hispanic mother, the case has become a racial flashpoint that has civil rights leaders and others leading a series of protests in Sanford and around the country. Zimmerman said he shot Martin in self-defense and has not been arrested.

Meanwhile, Martin's parents are blaming police for leaking information about their son being suspended for marijuana and details about the fight he had with Zimmerman that portrayed the teen as the aggressor.

Martin's mother, Sybrina Fulton, and family attorneys said Monday that it was part of an effort to demonize her son.

"They killed my son and now they're trying to kill his reputation," Fulton told reporters.

Martin was suspended by Miami-Dade County schools because traces of marijuana were found in a plastic baggie in his book bag, family spokesman Ryan Julison said. Martin was serving the suspension when he was shot Feb. 26.

The Sanford Police Department insisted there was no authorized release of the new information but acknowledged there may have been a leak. City Manager Norton Bonaparte Jr. said it would be investigated and the person responsible could be fired.

Martin family attorney Benjamin Crump said the link between the youth and marijuana should have no bearing on the probe into his shooting death. State and federal agencies are investigating, with a grand jury set to convene April 10.

"If he and his friends experimented with marijuana, that is completely irrelevant," Crump said. "What does it have to do with killing their son?"



He was not an innocent bookworm that was dressed wrong.

Live the life and you may die from the life.


lets see what rev. al says about the drugs. Are they for religious purposes?

There's nothing new here and the only testimony that Martin approached Zimmerman is Zimmerman's. The eyewitness only spoke of the fight in progress. And if smoking pot makes you a violent criminal, then there's a lot of us who should have been shot or locked up for life.

[badhattitude]

OReily will probably not ask the right questions or he will be lambasted by al and jessie.

[banned]

I Get it I really do. If a guy that looks like a thug comes walking down my street I'm going to keep a much closer eye on him than I would a clean cut normal looking guy. But I'm going to remind myself that right then I don't know anything about this guy other than he's got bad taste in clothes.

With something like this I'm going to look at what I know I'm not going to judge by appearance. I'm going to try not to bend the info I have to match any suspicions or prejudice I had before this occurred.

I Know Zimmerman calls the cops a lot.

I know Zimmerman felt this guy looked suspicious or possibly on drugs.based on appearance not actions.

I know Zimmerman choose to follow him.

I know the kid has no criminal record or history of violence (at least with what we've heard so far)

I know that toxicology proved the kid was not on drugs at the time.

I know the kid was fighting with Zimmerman and apparently had the upper hand.

I know Zimmerman shot him.


So I know a lot more about Zimmerman's actions and history as it relates to this than I know about the actions or history of the kid.

Now can any of you guys that think this is a justified shoot tell me that your opinion would be the same if this was a clean cut white kid?

My opinion would be exactly the same because it's based only on the facts surrounding this incident.

Brian

[Kiwipushrod]

If Martain were a drunk with power "Zelot" watch captain, this would have never happened.

Because if He were, He would have pulled the gun right away. The young man would have then ran for his life and possibly been shot in the back. In that case there would be no questions, now would there?

If (And I believe He was) down on the ground with the future astronaut or congressman on top of him, beating him about the head and face and he had Still not pulled his gun. This shows to Me, some Restraint!

At that point it dont matter who, what, when or why, his life Was in danger.

And the argument that Martin tried to restrain an unknown 6'3" hooded boogie, while himself being 5"9',. . .Well it didn't hapen capen, because he had'nt pulled the trump card yet, the gun.

Kiwi

[badhattitude]

So if the neighborhood had been the target of break ins and they have been done by clean cut white kids I would have probably followed and maybe had to shoot one of them. Color is not the deciding factor.

Its profiling but its because we need to be vigilant. I am not silent when strange kids dressed like hoods hang out around my house. My Neighbor next door is black and has 2 teenagers. they would never allow their friends to act like that. My neighbor across the street is black and his kids are grown up and moved away. They are the first to raise the flag when strange kids in hoodies show up. Some of them are even white but to us all a hood is a hood and we all get out in the kids faces if we are home.

If I were to walk into a company looking for a job dressed like a thug I would probably not get the job. If I were to call on a customer dressed like a ghetto thug I bet I would be asked to leave. Why should the kids who dress like gang bangers, act like gang bangers, talk like gang bangers not be treated like gang bangers. If they want to be treated differently they know they just have to look and act human.